Sunday, April 20, 2008

FREETHINKERS CASH OUT



LOW RENT FREETHINKING IS COSTLY TO ALL!




Recently I was kicked out of a group of limited freethinkers for expressing thoughts they were not in accord with, by their superficial examination of the facts in evidence . . . making their definition of freethinking an oxymoron.
This a back and forth I did with a Rick Sadler fr
om the group in Olive Branch Mississippi (which should tell you where this is headed) that makes my point about race relations in America clearer than I can alone. It is an illustration of how dangerous liberalism is, because it seeks to take a self serving high road irrespective of reality in order to allow the thinker to feel intellectually evolved. This is why the group has latched onto the notion of Atheism, in order to distance themselves from the hayseed mentality of their Christian neighbors. But in fact they use Atheism with the same ignorance Christians apply to nonbelievers.
Bear in mind that high minded thought applied to lowlife behavior is a recipe for unqualified disaster.
In fact this is such a microcosm of mindless liberalism that I've included this in the chapter of the book called HITS FROM THE BLOG.
I open with pontification; then Rick brings the Pith and I close with perspective . . . so follow along.
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I forever seek to instill in Negroes (Who the hell are you to instill anything in a race of people?) (WHO DO I HAVE TO BE? WHAT IS THE REQUIEM FOR A SAGE?) that their genetics and roots have only to do with their parents and not their ancestors. No one is a slave to their heritage. Each generation is born anew and has the capacity to go as far as their ambition takes them (or perhaps their extreme narcissism) (NARCISSISM IS PRIDE PERSONIFIED.) We only owe the future not the past. But look what motivates them (Warning! Stereotype ahead). (PREPARE FOR A GENUFLECT LIBERAL EXCUSE) What happens to the Negro (which Negro? All Negroes? Ever heard of the word STEREOTYPE?) (EVER WONDER HOW STEREOTYPES GET STARTED?) is that they are steeped in Civil Rights rhetoric (Which of course needs repudiation?) (WHICH IS ONE SIDED AND SELF SERVING AS PRESENTED.) and are victims of their home life (Each one having an identical home life) (EACH SLUM HAVING AN IDENTICAL REALITY) and fall prey to peer pressure that leads to drugs and gangs (Really? My ex-wife is black and working toward her PhD. But then again, I guess she’s one of the good ones)
(OMG! HS! NOT THE OLD "I know ONE" argument . . . I know a few more than that. WHAT'S YOUR POINT?)
More Black kids are joining gangs than graduating high school (Would love to see your sources on this. According to figures I’ve seen, even the lowest figures tout around a 50% graduation rate. Are you saying that more than half of all Blacks are gang members?)
(MORE THAN HALF ARE ARRESTED ISN'T BAD THAT ENOUGH?)
50,000 Blacks will have children out of wedlock in Memphis alone this year (Again, sources?) (FOR THOSE WHO LACK THE PERSPECTIVE TO EYEBALL THE SITUATION GO TO SNOPES) (Plus, if the figure is less for other racial groups, perhaps it is because other racial groups are a minority in Memphis.) (INCLUDING THE COUNTY, WE'RE JUST BELOW 50-50 FAVORING BLACKS SO YOUR FUZZY MATH DOESN'T ADD UP AND THIS RATIO PLAYS OUT NATIONWIDE) (It is a problem but not just confined to the Black race) (COMING FROM A HOME WITH A RUNAWAY FATHER I KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE. BUT THIS WAS NOT THE NORM AMONG MY PEOPLE. IF YOU'RE RIGHT THEN HOW COME SO MANY NEGROES OVER THE LAST 150 YEARS LAMENT THE LOSS OF A FATHER?) . . . most will never contribute to their children's support (How can you know this?) (HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW THIS? DON'T ARGUE A POINT JUST TO RETORT . . . ADJUST THE HANGER ON YOUR TV AND WATCH THE NEWS)


Even all this can be overcome, but it is an effort that will require supreme character (defined by who?) (AS DEFINED BY ME AS LIVING SMILING PROOF OF WHAT A PERSON MUST DO FROM THE INSIDE OUT TO CHANGE THE CULTURE OF THEIR VIEW OF THEMSELVES AND THE WORLD WHEN THEY START LIFE WITH NO FAMILIAL LOVE OR SUPPORT.) and that is what they must find the courage to embrace. They need to cheer for successful Black people rather than buy into the Black on Black racist cries of SELL OUT and PUNK and UNCLE TOM every time a Black man gets an education and speaks intelligibly (Another wild exaggeration). (EVER HEARD A RAP SONG GIVING PROPS TO SANITATION WORKERS? ON THE WEEKEND THEY HELD BLACK EXPO IN 1992 THERE WERE 2000 PEOPLE THERE, ALMOST HALF WERE WHITE, TO CELEBRATE THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF UPWARDLY MOBILE NEGROES. THERE WERE 75,000 NEGROES AT THE CHICAGO GANG SUMMIT THAT YEAR WHERE JESSIE JACKSON CALLED THEM THE BACKBONE OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT . . . I WISH SOMEONE CALLED FOR SOME NAPALM)


While these events take place in the Caucasian world, (SEE) it is not a plague of our society because we do not co-sign for poor behavior (I guess, being the superior sort we are, apparently we don’t consider genocide of the Indians or slavery, Jim Crow or racism poor behavior on our part) (WOW! YOU COULD BE A BLACK RACE LEADER WITH THAT MINUTIA . . . HAVE THOSE ATROCITIES BEEN COMMITTED BY ANYONE TODAY? WHAT ABOUT OUR ANCESTORS THAT FOUGHT AND DIED TO DO AWAY WITH THESE INSTITUTIONS? IF WE'RE GOING TO GET BLAMED THEN WE HAVE TO GET THE CREDIT AS WELL. IF I TOOK THE POLICE ON A HIGH SPEED CHASE THEN ATTACKED THEM AND GOT MY ASS KICKED, WHITE SOCIETY WOULDN'T HAVE RIOTED FOR ME TO GET MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.) .
In this society, one Negro commits a crime and 10 million enable and excuse his criminal behavior because of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation and lynching (10 million? I told you a million times not to exaggerate. Sorry, this is exhausting) (DID YOU WATCH THE O.J. TRIAL? DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE RIOTS AFTER THE RODNEY KING VERDICT? YOUR IDEOLOGY IS EMBARRASSING.)
Caucasians are the only people that celebrate Negro success (Blacks and Asians of course decry it) (OH SURE, ASIANS ARE KNOWN THE WORLD OVER FOR THEIR LOVE OF OTHER CULTURES. A BLACK MAN DEFINES HIS SUCCESS A LOT DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DO . . . THEY DON'T GET PROPS FROM THE BRUTHAZ FOR OWNING A HOME AND HAVING HEALTH INSURANCE FOR THEIR FAMILY) and that's why their successes are so limited compared to every other race (Look around at who really built America. Think back to those who fought for it during wars even though they were subjected to the worst forms of racism. Think of those whose courage inspired the world during the Civil Rights movement, those who were willing to risk their lives to bring justice to America. I guess we can’t call those “successes”). (I'M AN IRISHMAN WITH A JEW IN THE WOODPILE, MY PEEPS GOT THEM BEAT 100 TO ONE IN THE PERSECUTION AND SLAVERY DEPARTMENT YET THEY MANAGE TO THRIVE AS A CULTURE. AND WHY ARE YOU MAKING POINTS ABOUT TODAY'S RACE RELATIONS USING CENTURIES OLD REFERENCES FOR EXCUSES? YOU JUST ENABLE THE MENTALITY OF FAILURE AND CRIME. MY WHITE ANCESTORS AND RELATIVES HAVE FOUGHT FOR ABOLITION THE CIVIL WAR AND CIVIL RIGHTS; WHAT MORE CAN WE DO IF NEGROES WON'T HELP US HELP THEM.WHAT ARE NEGROES DOING NOW TO BUILD ANYTHING ANYWHERE?)



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His inane responses make my points for me. Here we have had this debate IN RE: The condition of the Negro race and line by line he has protested my assertions, as if that refutes them. Yet, when the smoke clears and the sun goes down, we are left to deal with the REALITY of Negro life in America. Listen for it . . . another person lays dead in the streets at the hands of a Negro . . . and in the time it took me to write that two more lay dead . . . one of them White. Are these violent crimes an illusion of stereotyping? Does slavery make it permissible for Negroes to be thugs? Is generational poverty a mitigating factor?
The real gist of this moment underscores the differences between the races, because I doubt there are any Negroes out their seeking to define and control their prejudice against Caucasians. In fact Caucasians are the only race of people that contemplate their prejudice and it will be our undoing as long as we're the only ones.
Stop the madness! Rick, you remind me of those Black owners of Black owned businesses during the riots that put up signs that read BLACK OWNED as if those bruthaz gave a shiznit about that. If we are to believe you, then White people are the cause of Black problems . . . but out of the other side of your mouth you claim Negroes don't have these problems because your ex-wife is a Black woman who may one day get a degree . . . no wonder race relations will only get worse with so much liberal ignorance.
Remember: LIBERALS ARE JUST CONSERVATIVES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN MUGGED. May you meet up with one of them fine impoverished misunderstood Negroes you shill for at a ready teller some dark night . . . when they're jacking you and capping you, go on and tell'em about your Negress ex-wife and see if that helps you or gets more hurt put on you.
Life is not a classroom of theoryology, where excuses and concepts are correct answers . . . in the real world that kind of thinking gets you and your family wiped out. That's why it has no value.
Knowledge in the hands of idiots becomes a weapon rather than a tool.
Next I'll do one of these on the Alpha female of the group, Liz, who is the poster girl for what happens to an underprivileged mind that seeks to gain intelligence by going to college . . . the longer you go to school the less able you are to think for yourself, because you repeat the idioms of academia believing it is a recipe for knowledge. School only offers students the chance to learn what everyone else already knows. If you want to become intelligent you must study your own mind.




P.S. This is for Liz who kept asking me what my REAL name is . . .


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48 comments:

d said...

Hey. I saw that Liz kicked you out of the group. You won't miss much. I don't comment there too much because there's not much they say. She didn't speak for everyone in the group just the click. That was the best day the group ever had and i knew she would pull it because it wasn't about her. Your observations about her were too close to her bone and she couldn't take it.

Any way take care. I'll check in with you. I'd like to be on your show. I have some interesting idea about race and religion. I've been in the south all my life so I know how tough it can be to be outside the pack.

rina said...

Hi KP,

That email you sent about the athiest lady is a riot. Are you going to post that here? You should. I don't guess she reads what she writes. That was nonsense.

"I do believe in personal responsibility and education. I also think that the poor parents of black children and maybe even the children themselves would feel the same way should they feel they have a chance or the tools to understand and use that chance."

Was she off her meds when she wrote that?

You keep things rolling.

docnroll said...

Kingpin I tried to warn you about them atheists bro. Your one of the good ones but the rest of them are cracked. I'll pray for you, but they're on theyir own.

KINGPIN said...

Isn't that interesting. I guess there was so much to find nonsensical in that post. This was my favorite.


"So you base your arguments on personal experience and antiquated and racist arguments and skewed statistics."

LET'S SEE . . . personal experience, history, sociology and the news. What other source is there to draw on information to create knowledge?

My next favorite . . .
"And how can you say it doesn’t matter why people would gun down someone else? What do you suggest then since, according to you, black folks commit crime and it doesn’t matter why they may commit crimes?"

I wish I had been in the group to hear her good explanation for Negroes robbing and killing.

Yes I will be posting a series of exchanges I had with the Atheistbillies. It is an interesting study in fringe intellect. They have the comprehension to post the words of masters to represent themselves, but they lack the intellect to grasp the meanings of those isms.

It's like how it would have been watching the great scholars of the world painstakingly come to the extraordinary conclusion that the universe may in fact be as old as one hundred thousand years.

Or even the great scientists of the 1940s who envisioned that by the 21st Century technology would become so incredible that a computer would weigh less than a ton.

From the primordial intellectual ooze they will flow. I guess I will give them something of greater interest to talk about at their next dozen man march than Liz's dragon tattoo. What's funny is that after they savage me personally they will systematically agree by degrees with what I was saying, which is apparent in these posts.

Intelligence in the hands of an idiot becomes a weapon rather than a tool.

kimmy said...

Kingpin are you losing that gorgeous hair??? I can take the white in the beard, but not losing your hair!!!!

Now you don't pick on those poor country souls you damn yankee! They're doing the best they can so let them be.
This poor woman is trying to raise her self esteem by getting some schooling, so let her have her little group where she gets to be the big deal. You have the rest of the world to work on.

luv ya Kimmy

KINGPIN said...

Kingpin are you losing that gorgeous hair??? I can take the white in the beard, but not losing your hair!!!!

No Kimmy darling, rest assured; my mane still flows out of control.

It was a rainy day and I was sopped about the head thus the flat overlay.

I would never dye my hair that's for sure, because hair coloring on men looks pathetic. I've got no problem with my hair going white. But my beard is way ahead of my hair. I can't dye it either. I'm a natural guy. I've had my beard since I was 16 so it's not going anywhere, so I've got to play it out. If I ever went a little bald I'd shave it all.

Did you see yourself in the GUESTBOOK photos? That was a great party!! P.J. is there holding her wine glass looking all sophisticated on my high class sofa. We had some nights.

Anonymous said...

i just come here for the girlie pictures.

gershon said...

Intelligence in the hands of an idiot becomes a weapon rather than a tool.

You sure can knock out wisoms KP.

Maybe there's a support group you can join. Don't feel too bad. You've been kicked out of better places then that.

keep tokin!

kimmy said...

I DIDN'T SEE THE NEW GUESTBOOK!

When you sent that guestbook link I didn't go there, becuase I thought it was the old one where ive been before.

THANK YOU SO MUCH DADDY KINGPIN!!!! Those pix are totally great to see again.

luv ya soooo much Kimmy

KINGPIN said...

Gershon said . . .

Maybe there's a support group you can join. Don't feel too bad. You've been kicked out of better places then that.


Yeah . . . church . . . and jail.

barry said...

You're only 1/2 way to respectability, I see you still haven't gotten a drivers license.

So the country Atheists down there did not accept you as their lord. Oh they of little faith......

I can't imagine anyone else putting it out there like you do.

When I saw a sampling of their posts I went lol that hick chick is definitely working thru some stuff but I can't figure out why you would go to so much trouble to bring them around.

Happy high holy day buddy. You get my vote for Lord of the Atheists but as a Jew I don't think it will be of much value.

later, B

Anonymous said...

Hey KP are you going to sue the athiests as well?

What's going on with you out there?

len said...

So you disagreed with Liz and she cast you out. Almost a Christian experience. She is a total she bitch that gives trailer trash a bad name. that's why everyone in the group kisses her ass because she thinks she's so righteous because she goes to college.

I went to some of these meet ups and they're totally weak. Just bullshit. They're not trying to do anything or talk about anything. Liz just wants them to be her admirers and scuzzy blonds are not that special.

Move onto better things.

howard t. said...

Or even the great scientists of the 1940s who envisioned that by the 21st Century technology would become so incredible that a computer would weigh less than a ton.


But they do weigh less then a ton so what's your point? duh.

Hey man never a dull moment in Kingpin world. Every time you go up against someone they ban you. That means they lose by default. You're too big for hick town. They may be atheists but they're still country fucks. You got to get back to the city. But I guess the internet is everywhere, so it's okay.

So far you stomped Joe Kent -Thaddeus Matthews and now the "ATHEISTBILLIES" that's a good one. Now you got the radio station and the strip clubs on the main card so kick ass!

THE KINGPIN said...

My mistake . . . I've just been informed it is one of the other sophisticated ladies in the group that has the dragon tattoo.
YIKE.
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The Organizer of this group has just removed you from the group. I'm the one with the Dragon tattoo! I've read your blog and the comments. I have seen numerous insults and slander of my friends and their websites. I don't agree with your views and find some of them distasteful. Therefore, I am removing you. Take care, Lana
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Ignorance is the only unforgivable mortal sin.

What is funny is that these people call themselves FREE THINKERS, while limiting the freedom of what hat speech can be. These people are bringing the tenets of Christianity to Atheism, because they don't know no better. They call believers ignorant and banish those who have a differing opinion with a torrent of personal insults since they haven't the intellect to make a counterpoint.

I will be doing a piece on this group of Hayseedtheists shortly that will be more interesting than the group itself.

I've got a deep throat sending me the juicy personal details of thier lives.

THE KINGPIN said...

This was sent to me as some insight.

Kingpin,

You're not supposed to come to the group and be more interesting then the leader. Liz writes her letters to the paper and you write books and it makes her intimidated so she puts you down.

You have a very dominating style that dismisses what others do who are trying to compete. It's great if you want to be an audience. But Liz wants fartcatchers in her group that think she's so special because she writes letters to editors and goes to classes.

She's not so bad, she's just kind of limited and this group makes her feel better about herself. It's a social club not an intellectual club.

There are better groups for meet ups in your area. I'll send you a link to XXXXX group that are really into exchanging ideas even if they get heated. The organizer might even give you some challenge. He's really gung ho.
Check it out.

gershon said...

Kingpin leave those crackers alone. Smoke a j and chill.

You have to know that it takes a lot of patience and brains to keep up with you in a debate.

Take your victory and post some more of the good stuff. The Thorneisms are a scream!!!!

Happy High Day

THE KINGPIN said...

What I found amusing is that in Liz' blowoff letter she told me that I was out of line posting links to promote my site.

There were only a couple of original thoughts I ever saw posted there out of 1000s of emails . . . just blurbs and splooges. Most of it was links to sites and quotes from others. In my case I don't need to quote others and I have articles I wrote as a reference link.

The people in these groups are hinky about what they say, so some contacted me outside the group not to offend Liz by responding to my articles in the group letter.

I've had others in other groups send me side emails because they do not wish to offend the reigning martinette by expressing agreement or dissent. Some of them have moderators so they check the messages for content before releasing them. CENSORSHIP?!?!?

I don't do this as a hobby looking for E-buddies or even for an audience; I seek to reshape the intellectual paradigm by any means necessary.

The difference between what I write and what others write is that I don't list the problems and make excuses for them, I ferret out the root of the problem and detail what must be done to destroy the probhlem makers.

These fence sitters always want to fall on the side of acceptance so they measure their responses, whereas I suffer no such cowardice, so I do not fear reality.

Once I pop my synopsis of the AGNOSTICRACKERS on the Blog for all time I'll move on. Just a recreational diversion. But I loathe morons and so therefore I must use their words and ideologies against them like a battering ram to shame them into sapience.

If not it will give everyone else a good laugh at their expense.

If these characters are the ones to represent Atheistic idioms Christianity will flourish so I must go from group to group to expand their reasoning even if it blows them out.

Each time, a few come over and so on and so on . . . if these people just want to do chats they need to stay on IM. The fate of the millennium is upon us and we can't do anything about it by writing letters to editors and studying sociology in a classroom.

christian monitor said...

Hey Kingpin, you athiest losers need to take a page out of the bible to deal with your women. They can't be in charge of the group.


Women should listen and learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly. For God made Adam first, and afterward he made Eve. And it was the woman, not Adam, who was deceived by Satan, and sin was the result. But women will be saved through childbearing and by continuing to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty. (1 Timothy 2:11-15 NLT)


As in all the churches of the holy ones, women should keep silent in the churches, for they are not allowed to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. But if they want to learn anything, they should ask their husbands at home. For it is improper for a woman to speak in the church. (1 Corinthians 14:33-35 NAB)

Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves. (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

Read you Bible sinners!

THE KINGPIN said...

As I always say: "Christianity is a philosophy that should not be applied religiously."


But were I to invoke the word of God to justify my actions toward women I would choose these . . .

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

I love a God that is pro rape and pro slavery.

How does that grab you, ya Bible humping dipshit?

Anonymous said...

How the mighty Kingpin has fallen. 2 chicks blowing you off in a day. You have lost your hook dude!!!!

THE KINGPIN said...

How the mighty Kingpin has fallen. 2 chicks blowing you off in a day. You have lost your hook dude!!!!

Only with beer sucking, tattooed hillbilly chix, brother. I'm all good with that.

As you will note, as you peruse my site, there are no such women of that ilk at my soiree's . . . only the hottest chix get to be Kingpin kissed!

Visit the GUESTBOOK here and see what my Queenpins looks like.

http://thornepeters.blogspot.com/search/label/GUESTBOOK

This association was supposed to be based on intellect not sex appeal . . . evidently they go hand in glove.

If I had an agenda, it would have been to get her college professors to stop by for some proselytization.

The common problem shared by professors and students alike is that hey are overwhelmed by extreme view points, because it leaves no room for their pithy theoretical meanderings. Once the case is stated definitvely, they are removed from the thought process, which leaves them on the sidelines . . . where their outlooks belong.

Since they cannot counterpoint or trump the wisdom emphatically presented, they flee from it by throwing stones at the messenger in order to declare victory . . . you know, like Christians do.

percy said...

Kingpin is good people. But he don't mince his words and he committed to getting his point out. Not everyone can handle that, because it's alot for one person. The people that know him don't have a problem but people that don't have trouble figuring it out so they get frustrated.

He's the funnyist guy I ever heard and he's good to everyone. When he was at the Dolls djing I would trip out when he would give his Higher Ground book out to black guys. They would talk about all those things and be for real the problems. Whites get uncomfortable because it makes them deal with their own feelings of racism which we all have.

Kingpin can't be that much of a racist if he's all the time going to black churches to talk about race and athiesm. He goes out to support the black Freemason group when they do charity. There's a picture on the first page here of him totally surrounded by black Christians and they bought a bunch of books so they know what he thinks and they don't think he's a racist so why would these white people think that?

Just so you know-- I'm a black man that is a fan of his radio show with him and Pastor Guy and I have read The Higher Ground. That's because I took the time to listen.

Go on Kingpin!

the kingpin said...

Whaddup Percy!!!!

You be up awful late brutha. Doesn't you has to get up in the mornin' to wait in line fo yo gubament cheez?


I could be back on the radio June 1, so hang in there. I'll straighten out the simpletons once and for all. I'm almost done with the new book WHAZZUP WIT' 'DEM NEGROZ? so we'll see how much you like me then Negro.

This book is so right on that it should get me assassinated.

I've got your call into the show about Black women on the "best of" CD. Send me an email with your snail mail and I'll shoot you out a copy.

I'm getting Jessie Lee Peterson to do the FOREWORD.

He's trying to say the same things, but he just lacks the eloquence and the perspective. He's lived a Whiter life than I have, so I'm going to tutor him about the way of things for us Brothers of the Struggle. it's hard out here for a White mac daddy . . .

Later on Broughham . . .

Anonymous said...

hey KP,

You got done in by your own kind. Like Jesus and Caesar.

Anonymous said...

Kingpin,

You must have really cared about Liz's group because you seem pretty piss off about beinging kick out. Why bother if she is insignificant?

THE KINGPIN said...

I was actually more pissed off . . . or to the point disillusioned while I was in the group. I had hoped to find seekers exploring idioms, not a social chat group filled with patois of the day and fart jokes. The group was pissed off at me because I quote myself and post myself to make my point. I don't need the ideology of others to make my point.

What is the difference between sending a link to some unknown and sending one to me? Read it or not critique it or not, but why launch a personal diatribe against me? That's just ignorant even for country folk.

When I first saw the direction of the group, I noted that the Alpha female Liz received raves for her pithy posts and congrats with streamers for sending a letter to a newspaper. I appreciate that she has come a long way to almost be able to express her thoughts in writing, but I can't dumb down my program to stay in the wheelhouse of the mundane.

I write books . . . I'm sorry. I write novels. . . I apologize. I compose music and poetry . . . my bad. I grab my nutsack and write about religion and sociology and politics; I hang it out there with no fear, because I have a cause . . . excuuuuuse me for being an epic guy.

I find it amusing that people who declare themselves to be freethinkers then sensor speech they find contentious and then ban people from the group rather than engaging in debate or confabulation. I mean why start a group if you're going to stand in the corner and piss yourself because you feel intimidated by the sapience of a member?

It is because of this issue that I am making the group an example in an upcoming post to illustrate the embarrassing attempt at philosophical debate you engaged in. It's to edify others not to chastise the group. Your ignorance will serve as a model and a warning to others.

As I say: Knowledge in the hands of idiots becomes a weapon rather than a tool.

See that? I quote me not others. Try it some time.

I speak at Black churches and receive greater acceptance and understanding and willingness to discourse on these very issues about race and religion. What does that tell you? I had these conversations in jail with gangbangers and hoodlums and even they evidenced a higher mind than your coven. Shame on y'all!!

This group of "Freethinkers" never refuted my claims; they merely branded me and banished me, which is quite Christian in its application.

I hope your klatch has learned a valuable lesson and perhaps you can go on with open minds and greater purpose . . . though there is no evidence of that capacity from what I read.

Lives and the future are at stake over these grave issues; this is not a hobby. If playing Atheist is trendy for you and makes you feel enlightened then enjoy it, but I've got work to do; I've dedicated my life to this.

I'm not billed as The Lord of the Atheists because I'm a master fence sitter trying to get a rise out of people. I'm making my stand here for the ages. What the hell are you people doing? What do your meet ups accomplish? How are you advancing the cause? Just calling Christians ignorant makes you equally ignorant, so you're no help at all.

So enjoy your little Atheist happy hours and passing your miniscule little blurbs if that makes you feel superior to your fellow Yahoos, but never kid yourself into believing what you do makes one damn bit of difference to anyone in the here and now or the everafter.

First you proselytize then you edify.

And next time, balls up and sign your name.

gershon said...

KP I think you just frustrated those people with your writing.
I mean look at the letters from that Liz woman you sent along. Then this person that posted from the group looks like a 3rd grader wrting. You responded to that person, but there's no way they could read it or understand it if that's a sampling of their writing.

It probably took as long for that person to post that as it took for you to post your reply. At some point you have to try to keep people in the game with you.

Maybe that's your challenge. Not to "dumb it down" but to play it down.

You know I love to watch you take on all flamers, but it doesn't look like these people are going to give you much of a bout.

rina said...

I just saw Montel (I know what you think) but they were talking about race and it got going and no one got kicked off the show. You are more to the point and blunt but they were into it.

People need to talk about it rather then react to it.

These free thinkers don't understand the term. if they're going to act like that.

patrick said...

Hey King,

why are you joining A group anyway?
You don't need that.

jedikid said...

This whole thing reminds me of the show you did about interracial coupling when the blacks called in and got on you for saying you wouldn't want your daughter being with a black man then they all went on about how they wouldn't want their kids being with white people.

But what I don't get is why your ID is posted on the site.

THE KINGPIN said...

I posted it because the leaderette of this klatch was fixated on asking me what my REAL name was.

She was clutching at straws as she went down for the count so I threw her an anchor.

I really did it to show everyone that I have begun to mainstream. I'm on the grid now.

You know that I'm not anti-establishment, I'm just not for it.

I'll be posting my story about these costly thinkers from Olive Branch in this spot and will send another alert out in the queue. You don't want to miss it. It's even funnier in a pathetic way than those Liz letters were. Here's the kicker . . . she's the brightest bulb on their dimly lit tree.

melanie said...

Kingpin, I really don't disagree with what you say about black people and it's totally stupid to make excuses for criminals, but isn't there a kinder way of speaking about blacks? You seem to be downing them and that's what some people could object to white and black.
I see how the people in that group are just being naive but you could maybe just offer a point without downing them.
Just my opinion. There's no doubt you know what you're talking about, because you have had the experiences and a lot of what you say is really clever but I also think that it is hurtful to blacks to have to see this about their race.

Just something to think of sweetie.
Melanie

ken shapen said...

I see you're in full "Fuck with em mode" but you're right that this kind of foolishness is dangerous especially when a white person says it. Of course his take is obvioulsy biased because he took a black woman as his wife. But it is also very untrue. Negroes worked the cotton fields of the south predominately while Irish and Scottish and Asian slaves and coolies and indentured servants and migrant workers did the heavy lifting and building in the industrial areas.

Mr. Sadler doesn't seem to realize he made your argument about blacks today, because he had to go back over 100 years to find evidence of black contributions to American society.

(Look around at who really built America. Think back to those who fought for it during wars even though they were subjected to the worst forms of racism. Think of those whose courage inspired the world during the Civil Rights movement, those who were willing to risk their lives to bring justice to America. I guess we can’t call those “successes”).

The people that brought about these changes were white epeople. It didn't take courage for blacks to stand up for black causes. It took courage for whites to stand up for black causes.

memphis lilli said...

Next time post a pic of that big Kingpin!!!

I'm cool with everyone who acts right, but blacks have a lot of problems and we're not to blame. They talk to women real disrespectful and it's bullshit. My girls keep messing with black guys and keep getting beatings and keep going back. White guys can be jerks to, but there not so hateful to women and they don't beat up woman the way blacks do.
Its getting worse in memphis even in the county and its not because of whites. So don't call names just look at the truth.

THE KINGPIN said...

I appreciate your words, Melanie, but I must use them to make the point. If you tell someone kindly, in confidence, that they have a problem or that you have a problem with them, and they ignore you and disrespect you and dismiss your complaint then you have to step up and make your meaning clear that this type of behavior and this kind of attitude is unacceptable.

But instead of heeding you, they attack you and yours and your community and everything you stand for. Then you can either snivel about it or you can stand up for yourself and your loved ones and all that you hold dear by throwing down the gauntlet and demanding they cease and desist or else.

Now we all agree tacitly or overtly that something must be done about the dreadful condition of Negro life and its representatives---to claim otherwise is pure ignorance; but we can't keep moving away and selling our homes and spending a fortune in taxes to appease them and contain them and service them. We get taxed out of existence to maintain public school that we can't even send our kids to because of the dreadful Negro marauders. We are being culturally annihilated one generation at a time by crime and taxes.

If a mad dog attacks you, you cannot roll up a newspaper and swat him on the nose; you've got to put that beast down . . . by any means necessary. It's like it was with that great Negro icon Rodney King; at any time during the event, all he had to do was comply with the law---i.e. not be driving drunk, not taking the police on a high speed chase that endangered humanity and not resisting arrest 11 times during the beat down.

Think ahead another 20 years and envision what the nation will be like for Caucasians then . . . our lineage and theirs. If we don't make a stand they will have to live life on the run. I've watched Memphis go down the drain one crime at a time in the decade that I've lived here and the only answer offered is to raise taxes and pretend that just because 158 out of 160 murders were committed last year by Blacks that they're not all bad all the time so therefore race has nothing to do with the crime wave. MORONICISMS!

Over 40 years ago we joined the Negro to bring about change for Negroes; we put our cultural interests aside to advance their cause---the only race in the history of the world to ever do such a thing and still they fail and still they blame us and long dead institutions for that failure.
It's like now they have the freedom to commit more crime than ever and each year they choose Caucasian victims at a greater rate. Bitching about it won't get it done, so I'm going to seek to repel and crush their onslaught with this book. It will be to Negroes what The Malleus Malleficarum was for Witches; what Common Sense was to the American Revolution.
It's the line in the sand that declares enough is enough.

When White people spoke the way Mr. Sadler did 40 years ago it was brave; now it is foolhardy cowardice that endangers us all, so I will expose any who hold onto these worthless liberal homilies with malice of forethought because these idiotologies will be our ruination.

It's not for me and you; it's for our grandchildren who will inherit a crippled race living in terror of making speech or taking action against the Negro incursion. I've seen what their culture represents and I will do all I can to see that no more Caucasians are ensnared within this mindset. White kids on the fringe of Black society have to go along to get along, so they become crunk talking Wiggers holding up their pants by their dickheads and trying to be hardcore to impress Niggers. If something drastic is not done to revitalize our culture and restore our traditions, there will be no more Caucasians . . . only Wiggers.

not newshound said...

Forum on manhood misses the mark
By JIM WOOTEN | Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 07:33 AM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

A group of middle-class black professionals, including doctors, lawyers, teachers, clergy and politicians, gathered more than 500 people at Macon State College on a Saturday in March to have a conversation about manhood.

They chose as topics the criminal justice system, spirituality, mentoring and how to educate black males.

The reporter for The (Macon) Telegraph, Ashley Tusan Joyner, offered an account of the session on “Law & Black Society.” In it, Atlanta lawyer Mawuli Mel Davis instructed young men on how to deal with the police. “The Fourth Amendment protects our rights against unreasonable searches and seizures,” she quotes him as instructing. “You can always say, ‘No, I do not consent to a search.’ “

A teacher speaking about educating young black males blamed the system. “The reason they’re not graduating is because we’re not teaching them to think,” Joyner reported him as saying. “We need to find ways to make education more relevant to them.”

I readily acknowledge I wasn’t there.

But it is shocking to read that given the opportunity to have a conversation about manhood with young males, role models who are successful and accomplished in life chose to talk to them as potential criminals and as victims of an education system that had not found a way to make itself “relevant.”

Not addressed, apparently, was manhood, as in fatherhood. Or manhood, as in taking responsibility. Or manhood, as in not treating sexual partners as throwaways without concern for consequence, whether that consequence is a sexually transmitted disease or the creation of human life. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported in early March that at least one in four teenage girls nationally has a sexually transmitted disease. Among black teens ages 14-19, it’s nearly half.

Another study released last week offers findings that are, in a less tragic sense, further evidence of the need to reorient the conversation. As has been amply reported, 25 percent of white children, 46 percent of Hispanics and 69 percent of blacks are born to unmarried women.

The cost is enormous. When combined with divorce (a rate that’s declined slightly in recent years) almost a third of children live in single-parent homes. In 1970, 85.2 percent of children lived with both parents; in 2005, it was 68.3 percent.

Any number of studies have documented the harm to children and the social costs in higher rates of crime, drug abuse, poverty, mental and physical illnesses, educational failures, and other damaging consequences to children deprived of the life-guiding influence of both parents.

Now Benjamin Scafidi, an economist in the J. Whitney Bunting School of Business at Georgia College & State University in Milledgeville, presents valuable new research on the economic costs.

“We estimate that family fragmentation costs U.S. taxpayers at least $112 billion each and every year, or more than $1 trillion each decade,” concludes the study, which was done for the Institute for American Values, the Institute for Marriage and Public Policy, Georgia Family Council and Families Northwest. Scafidi, a former education policy adviser to Gov. Sonny Perdue, was principal researcher. If public policies encouraging marriage reduced family fragmentation by just 1 percent, the savings to taxpayers would amount to $1.1 billion yearly, the study finds.

It seems clear that the conversation about what constitutes “manhood” needs to change, especially when the government, the media, opinion leaders and community role models gather young men to help them define it. Manliness is not creating and abandoning babies and the women who bear them. Leah Ward Sears, chief justice of the Georgia Supreme Court, is one of the voices stepping up. She is on the board of directors of one of the sponsoring organizations, the Institute for American Values.

“Healthy marriage is not only the best place to raise children, it is the indispensable institution without which all other social reform efforts will fail,” she said. “Healthy and intact families are the cradle of thriving societies.” Preach that. Teach that. Counsel that.

Anonymous said...

All I know is if black people make excuses for black criminals and white assholes like this guy makes excuses for black criminals then when is it going to stop?

tammy said...

I am more sick of white people making excuses for blacks then when blacks do it. How can any sane person act like black society is not falling apart? Especially here in memphis.

Thorne may be harsh about it but sweet talk ain't making it. If this guy thinks blacks are so wonderful to live around then he should move in with them.

I lived in memphis when it was a great city when I was a kid. Now the black people are ruining everything. 5 people got killed by blacks in the last 4 days just here. So who cares if your black ex wife is going to college?
You should listen to Thorne because he has the guts to talk the truth about things.

vedder said...

I agree with Barak Hussein Bin Laden Obama; racism is still a terrible problem in America. Black criminals choose White victims 45% of the time; Whites choose Black victims 3% of the time. In this decade, Black on White robberies happen 139 times more frequently than White on Black robberies; Black on White rape happens 121 times more frequently than White on Black rape; Black on White murder occurs 575 to 1 more often than White on Black murder. Too bad criminals don't stick to their own kind.

Anonymous said...

Black low culture is an issue. This black low culture seems to be more widespread and promoted in the black communities in the United States when compared to the promotion and spread of low white, Asian and Hispanic culture in these respective communities. What is disappointing is the ignorance of the accomplishments of the Africans in this country who do not have the "victimized" hang-up of African-Americans and appreciate the opportunities given to them. Not only do Africans appear to be doing better than African-Americans but also African-Americans (or at least a too large of a sector of the African-American community) do not appreciate or mimic the accomplishments of ex-slaves such as Fredrick Douglass and so forth. When asked about people such this ex-American slave, many African-Americans tote people like him as white sell outs. Personally, Fredrick Douglass's contribution to black esteem, the abolition of slavery and respect for education should be an example to young blacks including his work with atheist such as Elizabeth Cady Stanton. His critical statements about religion should also not be ignored by the black community.

Anonymous said...

...and there are a number of African Americans who are doing extremely well in this American culture.

jeff gaines said...

Well Kingpin I was just about to say you're losing it with this one, but I do see your point. Liberal thinking is no help. It's like we're patting blacks on the back and saying it's "ok" to keep this crime up because we're partly to blame for something that happened a century before we were born.

Rick isn't helping by taking their side either because that's how we can't tell who's good or bad blacks. When you take up for criminals it's like they're all criminals. If Kingpin is talking about blacks that are bad why would you stand up for them? It's stupid to argue the exact number because the percentage is way too much compared to whites.

So good luck to your ex black wife, Rick- but meanwhile back in d'hood.....

Anonymous said...

Can you clarify your stance on black culture? You seem to mainly be going after the black thugs and deadhead culture, right? Whites have a sector of their population with similar characteristics but this white thug/deadhead sector is not as glorified or as large of a percentage of the white population as it is the black population.

I just wanted some clarification on your stance.

THE KINGPIN said...

Anon 10:57 said . . . I just wanted some clarification on your stance.


You have grasped it completely, Anon. Why would anyone stand up for deadhead Blacks to soften the blow of retribution? Were a Jew to carjack and kill someone, no one would blame it on The Holocaust. This is the fatal flaw of our current socio-political outlook. All my life all I have heard is Negroes complain about the crime, illiteracy and abandoned bastard children of their race, but I've never heard them take responsibility for these syndromes and this is why they are never going to be resolved.

If this is to be the Yin then I must apply the Yang. I relentlessly attack Negro culture as a whole, because they are co-signing for the mayhem of their thug culture trying to be true to their race, which makes them enemies of the state. The Caucasians that leap to their aid do so to feel as if they’re enlightened, which casts a pall over our entire era.

By doing it this way it starts the conversation and very quickly those who try to refute what I'm saying have no counterpoint to make except to drag out the same excuses . . . then they get frustrated and attack me personally. But they still haven't refuted my declaration.

Unlike other authors, I do not merely offer commentary I offer definitive solutions as to how to end the the Uncivil Rights Movement in this country.

Therefore I have declared all Niggers to be my enemy. And until people realize that this not a racist statement or even a prejudice one then the downward spiral of race relations will never recover.

THE KINGPIN said...

I forgot this doesn't create a link but cut and paste this. It's on the front page under the heading I HATE NIGGERZ

That should give you perfect clarity on my stance.



http://thornepeters.blogspot.com/2008/01/i-hate-niggerz.html

Ja Rule said...

i see whats going on with Peters=
Transference.
You are a self admitted criminal from a broken home, you have perpetuated this trend with your own abandoned daughter (how much child support did you pay to her?)
and you work in low menial jobs in bars, strip joints, repo man, bill collector and drug dealer.
You sound like more of a scum bag than those you oppose!
Your demise won't be labeled an "assassination"
just another big mouth fool who decided to live by the sword.

C'est la Vie!

THE KINGPIN said...

Your demise won't be labeled an "assassination"
just another big mouth fool who decided to live by the sword.

Like for instance, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.?

You seem to have transposed portions of Thaddeus Matthews' history into elements of my life.

I didn't abandon my daughter until she bacame a drugged out 18 year old bulldyke.

I would hardly call making a grand a week or more working and partying with hot ass ladies in strip clubs menial labor . . . in fact I wouldn't call it work. My criminal record never produced a victim, since edealing drugs is a conceptual crime. I'm no more a criminal than a person who sold a glass of beer between 1921 and 1933 was.